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scandal bringing down general david petraeus at the cia. and similar scandals taking down ceos in the private sector, too. all leads to one conclusion for me personally. honor and personal responsibility do matter. congressman peter king is going to join me on this important topic a little later in the show. now, next up, will president obama's second term take the country over a regulatory cliff? national review online says today regulatory reform is more urgent now than ever. we are joined by robert locksly, president of the california business roundtable. hello to both you. ian a you heard mr. hofmeister knows a thing or two about this. we can knock the saudis off and change world politics and changes our balance of trade. will the epa block it, diana? >> well, i don't know but maybe we should listen to what president obama was saying last year. he was brag being the oil and gas development we have in the united states. we got to remind him about that when the new epa regulations come out. so we -- we want to make sure he doesn't bring out those old ozone regulations that he
, where these people would know the whereabouts of the cia director, know his activities, even maybe privy to some of the stuff about the benghazi investigation that no one else is privy to. who had sex, who didn't. >> 30,000 pages of e-mails. >> that the other guy sent. >> general allen and jill kelley -- >> that appear to be a little bit weird. >> he said yesterday he was just cc'd. >> which is even weirder. >> which takes away from the fiscal cliff. i had some viewers that were laughing at me because i was saying do we go with closing loopholes and deductions or do we go with letting the tax cuts expire on the wealthy. and they were laughing. they said obama's going to do both. he's going to ask for both. he's going to want all of it. if it's 1.6 -- >> 1.6 trillion over ten years. >> twice where we were with boehner. but might be the beginning of bargain point. but you get 820 billion. so there's another 800 billion. at this point, the others are saying no cuts to medicare, social security, or anything else. and they have to find another 800 billion. >> the president did not say -- >> w
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